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posted: March 8th, 2017 Trunk Appraisals and History Information:
I get a lot of emails asking me if I will do a trunk appraisal. I have the information for this process listed on the Showcase page but some people do not see it there. So, if you are interested in a professional trunk appraisal please read the information provided at this link to item T105 on the Showcase page. http://www.thisoldtrunk.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=313 Also, I am still answering email from visitors nearly every day. I have not been posting them on this forum page. So if you have questions about any of the items I have for sale, trunks or parts you are looking for, or specific information about your trunk, please contact my at Marvin@ThisOldTrunk.com If you are asking about your trunk please provide a few pictures including one that shows the whole trunk from the front. Thanks, Marvin |
Sarah H Location:
Springfield, OH |
posted: June 21, 2012 Hi, I love your trunks and the information you provide! I have a question about salesman's samples and doll trunks. I have been seeing a lot of small trunks listed on websites, in shops, and online auctions, as rare Salesman's Sample trunks. First of all, are they really salesman samples and if so, how can they be so rare if I see so many? Were there that many around and were some of them very simple and plain like many of these I've seen advertised? Thanks so much. Sarah
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Jim S. Location:
Sacramento, CA. |
posted: 1/22/2011 Question: Hello, I've enjoyed reading information on your website. I acquired a trunk which I believe is from the late 1870's and has some corner hardware with Pat. Oct. 23, 77 on it. Some of the pieces have some silver coloring remaining on them. Can you tell me if that is original or did someone paint them silver at some time? I see some folks on ebay selling similar trunks with hardware painted gold or brass. Can you tell me which is original on this type trunk? Thanks very much.
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Joe C. Location:
Albany, N.Y. |
posted: 3/9/2008 Hello, my question is about restoration and painting hardware on trunks. I have seen several trunks where the owner says that the hardware (slat bumpers, catches, lock, etc.) were painted with gold or brass paint "to bring it back to the original" finish. I don't really like the way they look, but I guess some people do. Is this something that you recommend and do you think this is a proper way to "restore" the metal parts on a trunk? Would this help or hurt the value? Thanks.
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Melonie Juby Location:
Texas |
posted: 12/19/2005 NEED INFO ON "TRUNK and BAGGAGE MAKERS INTERNATIONAL - AMERICA"
I came across an old trunk at a garage sale and FELL IN LOVE - allthough it's in pretty bad shape I had to have it! I'm looking for more information on it - what look like hammered sheets of metal (maybe copper? needs to be cleaned to know for sure) secured by wood trim adorn the exterior. There are also metal medallions (?) with scroll work as accents. Inside has the a-typical picture on the inside of the lid as well as a red triangular union (?) label mentioned above on the inside front wall. If anyone can help with more information or a resource web site, I would be very greatfull!
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Eddie Location:
Massachusetts |
posted: 12/01/2005 I have a trunk that is possibly from 1600's or early 1700s, but cannot find any websites that picture these kinds. any suggestions...? *leather wrapped, hand forged handles and tube latch (brass)....
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Don Worthen Location:
Arizona |
posted: 11/20/2005 Any suggestions for refinishing metal parts on trunk?
Moderator-Comment: Sure, there are a variety of things that can be done. Originally trunk metal parts (all that I have seen) were painted, so the authentic restoration would be cleaning and repainting the parts with the same colors. Some people prefer to strip paint off of metal parts and leaving it with the bare metal look, and that is fine if you prefer that look. Some people paint some of the metal trim with gold or brass paint and claim they are "bringing it back to the original", which is not true. I have seen this in many ads for trunks and it bothers me personally and looks "tacky" to me. Some early trunks did have some hardware such as catches and slat clamps that were nickel plated, and a few had brass plated or solid brass hardware, and those can be carefully polished, even if they aren't like new. Solid brass hardware, except for some locks and Jenny Lind "buttons", is quite rare actually. Some trunk trim parts are being reproduced, but not very many parts or styles. Some of these are brass plated and to me they look too new on old trunks, but they can also be painted or the finish rubbed some to take the brand new look off of them a little. Also, if the metal is in pretty good condition with minor wear and scratches, you can carefully clean it and leave it alone or coat it with a satin finish for protection. Not all trunks need repainting. The advice I would give is try to keep it as original as possible and don't change the colors from the original. Please ask if you have more specific questions. |
John Phillips Location:
Maryland |
posted: 11/13/2005 Hello, I have an antique steamer trunk well over 100 yrs old, made by Corbin Cabinet Lock Co, New Briton, CT. I'm in need of a T136 replacement key...and also floating this to see if you're interested in the trunk itself (I'm more interested in the contents of the trunk). Many thanks,
John P Moderator-Comment: Hello John, Corbin Cabinet Lock Co. didn't make trunks, but made trunk locks for many trunk companies. There were about 5 or 6 lock companies that made most of the trunk locks, including Eagle, Star, Corbin, Yale, and National. Some trunk companies used a variety of lock types on their trunks as some were less expensive and the higher grade trunks had the stronger solid brass locks. I don't currently have a key for your lock, but some better locksmiths may be able to help. You can always contact me at marvin@thisoldtrunk.com about a trunk you may wan to sell. Please email a few good jpegs if possible with condition and dimensions of the trunk. Thanks |
Mike Garrity Location:
Missouri |
posted: 11/04/2005 Thanks for the very interesting history on Star Lock Works and the differentiation between lock and trunk manufacturers. As with many of these ninteenth century trunks, mine has a lithograph of the period. I presume this was to date the trunk, however, this one has no inscriptions or autograph. How would I go about guaging the year of manufacture by the illustration glued to the inside lid?
 
Moderator-Comment: Another interesting question about a topic that is misunderstood by many trunk owners! The color pictures or "prints" as some people call them, are chromolithographs. This process was developed in the 1870s and many printing companies started producing these and a few companies sold these in a wide variety to trunk makers. I have seen hundreds of different chromolithographs in trunks over the past 30+ years and few that were alike. Also, 99 percent of these that have been seen are not signed or dated in any way. These were put in the trunk lids, on compartment doors, and sometimes on the trunk's tray covers also. These were used from the 1870s to 1920s and there is no way that I know of to use these to date a trunk or to determine which company made the trunk. The best way to determine the age of a trunk is by the style of the trunk and the hardware and patent dates on any part of the trunk can help determine the approximate age of the trunk. |
Mike Garrity Location:
Missouri |
posted: 11/02/2005 Was wondering if you can provide me any information about Star Works Trunks. These are the only markings on mine:
Top Latch: PAT MAY 64 & 67 EXT 69 Bottom Lock: PAT MAR 1869 STAR LOCK WORKS PHILA Moderator-Comment: Star Lock Works in Philadelphia made a variety of nice brass trunk locks for trunk makers. They didn't actually make the trunks, but they made really nice trunk locks. They were founded in 1836 by Mr. Liebrich and originally the locks were marked with C. Liebrich, Phila. and then in 1869 he retired and two partners, Hillebrand and Wolf took over the company and called it Star Lock Works. They made trunk locks and stays, keys, padlocks, latches and springs. An early trade card advertising Star Lock Works was shown in the Bicentenial exhibit for Philadelphia in 1976. I think they finally went out of business in the very late 1800s. This is a good question because many people think that the name on the lock would be the trunk maker, when in fact this is rarely the case. There were several large lock companies that made most of the trunk locks, including Eagle, Star, Yale, and Corbin. Many of the locks do have a patent date on them and that can help estimate the age of the trunk, but won't tell you who made it. |
Brad Location:
Illinois |
posted: 11/01/2005 I found a old footlocker in my barn which is painted olive drab green and leads me to think it is an old military footlocker. It has a tag on the top lid which indicates that it was manufactured by the Belber Traveling Goods company. It has leather side handles. Any thoughts on its approximate age or someone I could contact at Belber.
Moderator-Comment: I don't think Belber is still in business, but I do know they made desk trunks and footlockers for the military for many years. Your does sound like a military footlocker and could be from the WWI, WWII, or Korean War period. I think they went out of business in the 1950's or 60's but don't have actual years. I think they started out in Philadelphia and then later moved to Smyrna, Delaware. |
Susy Estrada Location:
Texas |
posted: 11/01/2005 what a wonderful website with an opportunity to send my comments. We have a trunk mfg by Rogers & Madison Trunk Corp. It has that logo on top with the number 3 Genuine Ply.
Its a desk type with compartments inside for mail, paperwork, small drawers. In fact, the original paperwork has been left there in restoration since 1890. my husbands grandpa left it to him. Everything he managed including ledgers, old war ration coupons, bank deposits, car titles, etc. are still in there. On the outside there is a bit of ageing, its maroon in color, all hinges in good shape. can you tell me more info what is it worth? we don't plan to sell in the near future. Thanks Moderator-Comment: This company was in Petersburg, VA and probably made this trunk around the turn of the century up until about the 1920s. A few companies made desk type trunks and many were made on contract for the military, many around the WWI period. I had a nice one that sold a couple years ago, made by Belber Traveling Goods. These are interesting and fairly hard to find, but I can't give an estimate on a trunks value without seeing it or some good pictures, because condition, completeness, age, style, size, and even location can make a big difference in the value. But the value of having a family heirloom would probably be more important. |
larry Location:
New Jersey |
posted: 10/25/2005 i have sitting in my basement abandoned wardrobe trunk i was
going to throw out but on further inspection i found a little metal plate its from r h
Macy co. ny. it opens has draws hangers. has a bunch of steamship stickers from
Norway on it. any info on this type of thing from the r h Macy co. would be
appreciated.
Moderator-Comment: Several of the large retailers including Macy's, Sears, Montgomery Ward's, and others, had a variety of trunks made for them by large trunk companies and put their name on them. They sold a variety of styles as evidenced by the old catalogs showing a wide range of trunks. Your wardrobe trunk, and those are mostly from around 1900 to the early 1930s, could have some value depending on the condition, style, completeness, etc. It would be worth checking with a local antique dealer to see what they think. |
Buck Rekow Location:
Idaho |
posted: 10/22/2005 I have an odd wardrobe trunk by National Vulcanized Fibre Co. It has a hanger system that is not intuitive. the 'closet' side is very shallow, and has a pair of arms that are extendable when it's open. The hangers are held inside a spring loaded sandwiched bar. pull the tab, it releases the hangers. There is also a swivel hook on the other end, maybe for hanging the bar in a closet. What's got me is how this setup is meant to hang a suit inside the closed case. the bar will not rest on the arms with the case shut,
because with the bar parallel to the lid, the hangers will not clear the inside wall. There's not a center mount for the hangers or lock bar. If there was a hook for the bar, the length of the lowermost suit would be outside the case. Have you ever seen one of these and understand how they are intended to work? I would like to use this case to store a few of my suits.
NVFCO has sure managed to make a fool of me. Moderator-Comment: I have seen a variety of wardrobe trunks and also many in trunk catalogs, but unfortunately I have never actually tried to use one, so really can't help you much there. You might try visiting the Hartmann trunk company website, one of the few trunk companies that made many of these type trunks that is still in business, and maybe there is some information that could help on their history page that has some pictures. Good luck. |
Curtis Miller Location:
United States |
posted: 10/09/2005 More information concerning the humpback trunk in prior inquiry. The side lock patent date is July 9, '72, The center lock patent date is March 1886 and September 1887 with a five pointed star. The harware on the lid at the junctions of the wood banding is marked Pat'd March 16. This occurs in six places, two of those are mirror image or stamped from the wrong side, I assume this indicates the patent marking stamping preceded the decorative forming pressing. There are four small iron wheels on inlet casters on the bottom of the trunk. The smooth metal coverings appear to be
"japaned" black. The wooden banding looks like oak and has decorative lines inciced along the length they are about 2" wide.
Moderator-Comment: Curtis, Your trunk actually fits the description of many embossed metal covered trunks from the 1870s to 1910s period and these were made by many companies. The patent dates do help with the approximate age, probably from the late 1880s to 1890s. The lock sounds like a lock from Star Lock Works in Philadelphia. The lock companies sold locks to trunk makers and didn't make the trunks. The metal pattern is a more unusual one but I have seen that a few times. There were about two dozen patterns used of the embossed metal and many color combinations have been found, including the ones that look like brass plating or "gilded". That is about all the information I am able to provide on your trunk. Thanks. |
Curtis Miller Location:
United States |
posted: 10/08/2005 I have a dome top trunk with an interesting lock-hasp it folds up from the bottom and has a patent date of September 1887. There are two side locks that open with levers on the side of the lock and are patented in July 1872. The sides and middle area of the top are covered with embossed metal in a floral pattern that looks like rasberry leaves and fruit, this was at one time guilded and that has faded to a gray green patina. Any information about this trunk would be appreciated.
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Donna DeNardo Location:
United States |
posted: 10/07/2005 i have a wardrobe steamer style trunk it is in beautiful condition, i use it as a piece of furniture. it has all the original pieces except the iron.
i have all the hangers, and the ironing board. the manufacturers label is still on the outside it is MURPHY'S ,St. Louis best baggage made. if you could help me find out more about my trunk or Murphy's that would be great i would also like to get the iron that goes with it if know , or have suggestions i would appreciate it thank you Moderator-Comment: Donna, that's great that you have such a complete wardrobe trunk. Many companies made those from around 1890 to the 1920's. I'm afraid I don't have any information on Murphy's but you might try checking with the business bureau or historical society in St. Louis to see if they have any history on the company. Good luck. |
Brent Location:
United States |
posted: 10/05/2005 Hello, and my compliments on a Wonderful, informative website..
I have a Belbar Steamer Trunk from 1921. It is in beautiful condition, with all parts, hangers, etc. My Problem, is that it had sat in a moldy, damp basement for decades, and now smells terrible! I have used fabric cleaner, and scrubbed the whole thing down with a soft brush, and rinsed very well with a garden hose. I let it dry in direct Sunlight. This did help, but still smells. I bought Fabreeze Anti-Microbial odor remover, and doused it with that as well. No good. I then put it in a walk in closet with an Ionizer, and that has been for 3 days now. Took it out last night, and the mold smell is still there. I want to use this trunk as mu dresser......have you had any experience with the removal of mold odors in trunks? Thanks very much for your consideration, and thank you for having this website. Moderator-Comment: Brent, removing some odors from old trunks can be very difficult and you have tried options that will sometimes work. The odors get trapped in the fabric lining and even in the wood body of the trunk. If those options have not worked satisfactorily, then the only other option that may work is to remove the interior lining and then seal the wood with a couple coats of wood sanding sealer. Good luck. |
Mary Location:
North Carolina |
posted: 10/04/2005 Just wondering if you can tell me where to look to find any information on a trunk. Any information you may have would be ideal. It's a black leather trunk. It is about 2 feet by 3 feet and the depth is about 2 feet. The metal tag has Rogers Brothers & Kevar along with Paramount Baggage, Petersburg Virginia.
Thanks Moderator-Comment: Mary, there were many trunk companies in the US between the early 1800s to about 1920 that we know very little or nothing about because they went out of business leaving little or no information. I do know that Petersburg VA had one of the largest trunk companies ever, Seward Trunk & Bag Co. Also, there was a Rogers and Madision Trunk Corp in the early 1900s and this could have been the origin of the company you asked about. You might try contacting the business bureau or historical society of Petersburg to see if they have any records or information. |
Ellen Location:
Michigan |
posted: 09/19/2005 I have found a P.C. Murphy Trunk Co. Wardrobe trunk that I may
purchase. I am having a hard time finding much information about the company and what it is worth. It is a gold metal trunk with a gold (maybe silk) fabric lining. The flip lid is velvet lined. The right side has 3 small drawers (with a secret drawer in one) and 4 large drawers. The left side has a dust door. This has the only damage where it has rubbed on a hinge. It is solid with pleated fabric in the center. The hanger area has a thing you push back to hold cloths tight and 12 hangers of 3
different types. This seems to be a fancy trunk. Was it an upper end one when
bought? When would this have been made? What would be it's value now? I don't have a good place for it now but will in a few years when my kids move out. I hate to pass it up if it is a good deal.
Thanks, Ellen Moderator-Comment: Many companies made wardrobe trunks similar to the one described. This one may be a little fancier than some but many had these features. These were made mostly between 1900 and the 1920s. There is very little information available on most of the trunk companies but that doesn't really impact the value very much. Value is determined by condition, style, size, completeness, age, maker (sometimes) and even location. It is very hard to give an estimate of the value without seeing the trunk. Thanks |
Kristin Ryan Location:
AMassachusetts |
posted: 09/18/2005 I have found a Louis Vuitton trunk in my attic with original label in cover in
Excellent condition dated 1868. Please advise. I am interested in selling
immediately. If you email me directly I will send pics...am digitally stupid. Thanks Kristin
Moderator-Comment: Hello, If you can email a few good digital pictures or mail photos and provide the dimensions, I can provide you an offer. Thanks. |
levi Location:
United States |
posted: 09/16/2005 i was thinking of buying a trunk made by the bebber traveling goods company i was wondering how much i should offer. it really looks like a traveling closet with hangers and places to put your clothes.
 thanks levi Moderator-Comment: What you are describing is a "wardrobe trunk". Belber Traveling Goods and many other trunk companies made these from the 1890's to about 1925. The value is based on condition, age, style, completeness, size, maker, and even location. Since these are usually quite large they can be more difficult to ship now or to use for other purposes (such as a coffee table) than the smaller trunks. In good original condition these sell in the range of about $200 to $500, maybe more for fancier models. A Louis Vuitton wardrobe trunk would typically sell for much more due to the famous name. |
Debbie Rummel Location:
United States |
posted: 09/14/2005 I have been given 2 trunks made by Tronick & McKenzie. Could you please direct me as to where to find information about these trunks. They are metal with a shelf that lifts out and storage on the bottom. Thank you for the help.
Moderator-Comment: Good question. There were actually hundreds of trunk companies in the US between the period of late 1700's to around 1930, and nearly all of them went out of business leaving very little evidence that they even existed, except for their trunks that survived. Most of these companies were fairly small and served the town or area where they were located. Very few became very large or merged with other trunk companies and survived to around 1920. Very little is known about Tronick & McKenzie, other than they made metal covered trunks. Sometimes historical society or local library and business bureaus have information about trunk companies from their town or area. I don't know anywhere to direct you for more information. Thanks |
Deborah K. Hollar Location:
United States |
posted: 09/12/2005 I have a Mendel Trunx w/both hangers and# 4814 stamped one of the leather handles. Four drawers on the left side and the right side w/hangers has a flip top
Moderator-Comment: Hello Deborah, You have a Wardrobe trunk probably made between 1890 to 1920 when these were very popular. Mendel made many of these in Cincinnati Ohio. They later became Mendel Drucker Trunk Co. Most wardrobe trunks are of this type arrangement of drawers and hangers. Some fancier ones have fold down desks, ironing boards, briefcases and other accessories. |
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